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During some old USSR-USA TV show, a woman told a famous line "There are no sex in USSR". I tell you - after reading what they call a fanfic, I definitely have nostalgia surge. Looks like the "genre" is limited to, err, relationships between Red-Hat-Girl and the Wolf, Harry Potter and Drako Malfoy, Dart Vader and Frodo and so on ad infinitum.

There are no story, no new characters, no adventures, no effects. Fantasy promptly stops at homosecsual orgy of orcs and elves.

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Yes, presious, these stinky books are obsolete. We should crawl under the mountains of doom millions-dollar-cost-production and see what we can do with these computer games instead.

Date: 2005-01-06 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 0qwerty0.livejournal.com
there's even a term for such fanfic - can't recall it at the moment though. yucky, I agree.

Date: 2005-01-06 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simonff.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] ikadell прыскает в кулак, когда я ей говорю, что читаю Slashdot.

Date: 2005-01-06 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simonff.livejournal.com
Еще "яой".

Little Red Riding Hood

Date: 2005-01-06 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] med99.livejournal.com
Red Hat Girl — это другое, другое...
From: [identity profile] arpad.livejournal.com
Ну так колитесь. Другое - какое?

Date: 2005-01-06 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ars-longa.livejournal.com
Hey, if you don't like it, don't read it, it's as simple as that!

As usual, there is a lot of bad writing aroung there and a much lesser amount of a good one. But it exists, I assure you. But if you're irked with the genre, see line one.

A fact that there is multitude of sugary-sperm filled romantic stories (and in het more than in slash, just go to Borders and see for yourself) doesn't mean we can judge all genre as unworthy. I'm going banal here, but it's because I'm tired to hear the same one all over again. I assure you that your complain don't hold any difference from some medieval writer's who complained about very much the same thing some 500 years ago.

Nothing is new under the sun.

No, I am not THAT serious

Date: 2005-01-06 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arpad.livejournal.com
I know :) I am just in a cursing mood.

And there is something new under the sun. Actually, this "ворчалка" was written mainly for its last paragraph.

Re: No, I am not THAT serious

Date: 2005-01-06 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ars-longa.livejournal.com
Ah, well. I'm not into computer games. But I'm very much in fan-fic.

Date: 2005-01-06 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elinai.livejournal.com
Yes, I can imagine: monster from Doom3 having sex with creature from Black&White in Halo jeep.

The horror, the horror

Date: 2005-01-06 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arpad.livejournal.com
After seeing woman character named "Monica Lewinsky" in "Ultima Online" MMOG (the girl walked all over medieval town and loudly complained how badly Clinton threatened her) I become somewhat less optimistic about "player driven content".

Re: The horror, the horror

Date: 2005-01-06 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ars-longa.livejournal.com
Poor naive baby. You still believe in education level of your average fellow citizen? :)

Player driven content, my fat ass! And how, pray tell me, it differs from bad fanfic?

(although I wholeheartedly agree about the obsoletness of traditional paper books)

Date: 2005-01-06 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arpad.livejournal.com
And how, pray tell me, it differs from bad fanfic?

Not at all. It is exactly that.

But opportunity that I see in electronic games is building a meaningful experience out of this bad fanfic.

Re: The horror, the horror

Date: 2005-01-06 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elinai.livejournal.com
Actually, this one sounds like fun (Shrek 2 style).

Date: 2005-01-06 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arpad.livejournal.com
It was fun.

It also was a manifestation of one of hardest problems of massively-multiplayer game designer, which is how to make your audience to play along with the game universe.

I have some thoughts on this matter - but it is a different and looooooong story.

Date: 2005-01-06 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ars-longa.livejournal.com
Yeah, having made a mistake of joining a RP game not so long ago I can see where the problem is. :) I myself tend to be obsessed with continuity, characterization authenticity and all that.

hear hear

Date: 2005-01-06 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arpad.livejournal.com
continuity - that's the word

Date: 2005-01-06 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elinai.livejournal.com
I used to be a big fan of EverQuest some years ago, until now I consider it the best game that I have ever played. It seemed that the main design problem there was economy. As for the audience, the main concern was loosing all family and friedship ties, lack of clean dishes and too far of a distance between computer chair and the bathroom. ;-)

Hear, hear!

Date: 2005-01-16 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gholam.livejournal.com
What server by the way? :)

Re: Hear, hear!

Date: 2005-01-16 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elinai.livejournal.com
Xev :-) It was 4 years ago, though. 16 Clerik and 29 Druid.

Re: Hear, hear!

Date: 2005-01-16 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gholam.livejournal.com
Ah... I was on E'ci, quit about two years ago, 65 rogue and 30-something cleric alt.

Re: Hear, hear!

Date: 2005-01-16 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elinai.livejournal.com
65 - kudos
Never had that much time.

Re: Hear, hear!

Date: 2005-01-16 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gholam.livejournal.com
The joys of being a teenager...

Re: The horror, the horror

Date: 2005-01-06 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ars-longa.livejournal.com
It can be, if done right. Everything can be fun if done right. Unfortunately, all too often things like that are inspired by primitive lack of imagination.

Date: 2005-01-10 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luch.livejournal.com
Looks like you are ready to read [livejournal.com profile] pottersues! :)

Date: 2005-01-10 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arpad.livejournal.com
*laughs* Interesting place, thanks.

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