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EU poll: Israel greatest threat to world peace
Fifty-nine percent of Europeans say that Israel is a larger threat to world peace than North Korea, Iran or Afghanistan, according to a European Commission survey of approximately 7,500 Europeans, scheduled to be made public on Monday.
Given a list of 15 countries, including Iran and North Korea, Israel was listed as the greatest threat to world peace, the Spanish daily El Pais reported.
The EU has denied allegations that it suppressed the results of the survey.
"This poll is an indication that Europeans have bought in, 'hook, line and sinker', to the vilification and demonization campaign directed against the State of Israel and her supporters by European leaders and media," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the Wiesenthal Center's founder and dean.
"If the results of this survey are as reported, then Israel should draw the only conclusion possible - that the European Union and its members should play no role in any future peace process," Hier said.
Hier added that the poll only shows that "antisemitism is deeply embedded within European society, more then any other period since the end of WWII."
In a statement sent to the The Jerusalem Post Minister-without-Portfolio with responsibility for Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Natan Sharansky deplored the findings of the poll. "The fact that most Europeans view Israel as the greatest threat to world peace instead of nations that support terrorism, or dictators threatening the world with weapons of mass destruction, is further proof that behind Europe's 'political' criticism of Israel lies pure anti-Semitism," Sharansky said.
"Just as in the past when Jews were blamed for all the world's problems, today's 'enlightened' nations are doing the same to Israel," Sharansky added.
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Well, our bargain with God has its negative side. When people start to hate his heavy hand, they try to get even with us :)
Update It looks like that:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/public_opinion/flash/fl151_iraq_full_report.pdf
Q10. For each of the following countries, tell me if in your opinion, it presents or not a threat to peace in the world?
Answers: yes
Israel 59%
Iran 53%
North Korea 53%
United States 53%
Iraq 52%
Afghanistan 50%
Pakistan 48%
Syria 37%
Libya 36%
Saudi Arabia 36%
China 30%
India 22%
Russia 21%
Somalia 16%
EU 8%
The one socio-demographic characteristic that stands out is education – the more highly
educated respondents (66%) are more likely to perceive Israel as a threat to world peace
than those who ceased their studies at an earlier age (“16-20”: 59% and “15 and
younger”: 50%).
EU poll: Israel greatest threat to world peace
Fifty-nine percent of Europeans say that Israel is a larger threat to world peace than North Korea, Iran or Afghanistan, according to a European Commission survey of approximately 7,500 Europeans, scheduled to be made public on Monday.
Given a list of 15 countries, including Iran and North Korea, Israel was listed as the greatest threat to world peace, the Spanish daily El Pais reported.
The EU has denied allegations that it suppressed the results of the survey.
"This poll is an indication that Europeans have bought in, 'hook, line and sinker', to the vilification and demonization campaign directed against the State of Israel and her supporters by European leaders and media," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the Wiesenthal Center's founder and dean.
"If the results of this survey are as reported, then Israel should draw the only conclusion possible - that the European Union and its members should play no role in any future peace process," Hier said.
Hier added that the poll only shows that "antisemitism is deeply embedded within European society, more then any other period since the end of WWII."
In a statement sent to the The Jerusalem Post Minister-without-Portfolio with responsibility for Jerusalem and Diaspora Affairs Natan Sharansky deplored the findings of the poll. "The fact that most Europeans view Israel as the greatest threat to world peace instead of nations that support terrorism, or dictators threatening the world with weapons of mass destruction, is further proof that behind Europe's 'political' criticism of Israel lies pure anti-Semitism," Sharansky said.
"Just as in the past when Jews were blamed for all the world's problems, today's 'enlightened' nations are doing the same to Israel," Sharansky added.
***
Well, our bargain with God has its negative side. When people start to hate his heavy hand, they try to get even with us :)
Update It looks like that:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/public_opinion/flash/fl151_iraq_full_report.pdf
Q10. For each of the following countries, tell me if in your opinion, it presents or not a threat to peace in the world?
Answers: yes
Israel 59%
Iran 53%
North Korea 53%
United States 53%
Iraq 52%
Afghanistan 50%
Pakistan 48%
Syria 37%
Libya 36%
Saudi Arabia 36%
China 30%
India 22%
Russia 21%
Somalia 16%
EU 8%
The one socio-demographic characteristic that stands out is education – the more highly
educated respondents (66%) are more likely to perceive Israel as a threat to world peace
than those who ceased their studies at an earlier age (“16-20”: 59% and “15 and
younger”: 50%).
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Date: 2003-11-02 03:49 am (UTC)http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2810656,00.html
Это как-то меняет твое мнение, или его ничего не способно изменить?
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Date: 2003-11-02 03:59 am (UTC)Если задуматься на секундочку: ну какое мы на фиг стабильное государство?! Мы ж можем по Сирии шарахнуть, в Ливан погулять сходить, Арафата прикончить... Это мы с вами понимаем - зачем, почему, куда и когда. По разному, может быть, но монимаем, что всё-таки пытаемся защититься. А с точки зрения обычного европейского обывателя - мы просто гнойник разрушительной активности, который постоянно угрожает мировому спокойствию и ценам на нефть. Это тоже, вообщем-то, правда. И никак не отражает взглядов Европейцев на решение проблемы и их отношения к евреям.
Зато в Израиле очень модно найти очередной "всплеск" антисемитизма и приняться за него со всей дури. А почему Щаранский в России антисемитизма лютого не видит (а он там нынче и правда лютый) - можно объяснить лишь его любовью к поездкам на доисторическую родину за государственный (наш с вами) счет.
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Date: 2003-11-02 04:24 am (UTC)Я отлично понимаю, что наш конфликт с самого начала был и продолжает быть самым вероятным очагом Третьей мировой. Да, Израиль способен "внезапно" ударить и по Сирии, и по Ирану, и Арафата прикончить. Но идея тут в том, что европейцы отказываются видеть в этом вынужденную самозащиту. Они смотрят на все действия Израиля как на "ничем не спровоцированную агрессию", а если и признают, что в чем-то она и была спровоцированна, то уж в любом случае ответ Израиля будет "не адекватным". Взрывают 20 человек в ресторане, Израиль бомбит лагерь Исламского Джихада, в результате чего ранен один человек - не адекватная реакция, осуждающие резолюции. Взрывают 2 автобуса, Израиль садит под домашний аррест Арафата - не адекватная реакция, обезумевший Шарон. И т.д. и т.п. Вот в этом и лежит нездоровая тенденция европейцев: при том, что наш конфликт является очевидным очагом, они видят главным его разжигателем Израиль, а не арабов. Можно не называть это антисемитизмом, но то, что отношение предвзятое это факт, с которым глупо спорить.
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Date: 2003-11-02 05:16 am (UTC)Вот
результаты по мнению ГаАрец. Сегодняшний номер. А материал этот основывается на утечке информации, впервые опубликованой в Эль Паис. Именно в Паис-то я ничего и не нашел. Не нашел и в других источниках.
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Date: 2003-11-02 05:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-11-02 05:45 am (UTC)Re:
Date: 2003-11-02 05:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-11-02 06:07 am (UTC)Вообщем, будем жевать и смотреть :)
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Date: 2003-11-02 06:14 am (UTC)Будем посмотреть, да.
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Date: 2003-11-02 05:46 am (UTC)