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Да, Турция Ататюрка, Испания Франко, Чили Пиночета на поверку оказались лучше чем Куба Фиделя или Кампучия Пол-Пота. Но умники, сообразившие это, имеют обыкновение забывать, что "лучше" не всегда означает "хорошо".

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[taki-net.livejournal.com]

Откуда следует, что жертв на Кубе больше, чем в Чили? Количество эмигрантов сопоставимо, массовых казней на Кубу, в отличие от Чили, не было.

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А почему это должно откуда-то следовать? Я не считаю количество жертв единственным критерием для сравнения.

[bbb.livejournal.com]

...тем более, что на Кубе, в отличие от Чили, число жертв никто не считал. В результате люди вынуждены писать так:

Various estimates have been made to ascertain the number of politcal executions carried out on behalf of the Cuban Government in Cuba since the revolution. Latin American historian Thomas E Skidmore, assessed that there had been 550 executions in the first six months of 1959.[11] British historian Hugh Thomas, in his extensive study Cuba or the pursuit of freedom[12] alleged that "perhaps" 5,000 executions had taken place by 1970,[11] whilst The World Handbook of Political and Social Indicators assertained that there had been 2,113 political executions between the years of 1958-67.[11]

Cuban American sources place the number of executions in a far higher bracket. The Cuban American National Foundation assess that since the revolution 12,000 political executions have taken place.[11] Dr. Armando Lago, of the Association for the Study of the Cuban Economy, a group of academics whose board of directors is almost entirely comprised of Cuban exiles, [13] claim that between 15,000 and 18,000 Cubans were executed for counterrevolutionary activities since the revolution. He also asserts that 250 Cubans disappeared during the period, 500 died in prison for lack of medical attention, 500 were murdered in prison by guards and there were 150 extrajudicial assassinations of women. Lago calculated these numbers "using old news accounts, U.S. and Organization of American States records and family histories."[14] Lago's study relies heavily on records of the US State Department and the Organization of American States.

The author of the Historical Atlas, a online personal compilation of various sources summarizes his findings as follows: "The dividing line between those who have an axe to grind and those who don't falls in the 5,000-12,000 range."[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba#Political_persecution

[kilativ.livejournal.com]

Ага. А согласно исследованиям по голодомору, украинцев погибло больше, чем все население тогдашней Украины. Это смотря кто считает. Вот и сейчас счетоводы насчитали 600 000 убитых иракцев за 3 года. Спросите у республиканцев - согласны ли они с этим мнением?